22-3-46 Afternoon
Swami Sambuddananada of Sri Ramakrishna Mission said:
"I want to hear from Bhagavan Ramana's own lips, His own experience of Self Realization. Such beings are walking Upanishads."
Bhagavan said: "You say you think, I have attained Self Realization. I must know what you mean by Self Realization.What idea do you have in your mind about it?"
The Swami was not pleased with this counter-question. He added after some time: "I mean the Atma merging in the Paramatman."
Bhagavan Ramana said: "We do not know about the Paramatman or the Universal Soul, etc.,We know we exist.Nobody doubts he exists, though he may doubt the existence of God. So, if one finds out about the truth or source of oneself,that is all what is required."
The Swami thereupon said: "Bhagavan says 'Know Thyself'.
Bhagavan Ramana said:
"Even that is not correct. For if we talk of knowing the Self,there must be two Selves, one a knowing Self and the other which is known,and the process of knowing. The state we call Realization is simply being oneself,not knowing anything,not becoming anything.If one has realized, he is that which which alone is and which alone has always been.He cannot describe that.Of course,we loosely talk of Self Realization,for want of better term.How to "realize" or make Real that which alone is Real? What we are all doing is,realized or regard as real that which is not real.
This habit of ours has to be given up.All Sadhana under all systems of thought
is meant only for this end.When we give up regarding the unreal as real, then the reality alone will remain and we will be that."
Source: Source: DAY BY DAY WITH BHAGAVAN From the Diary of A. DEVARAJA MUDALIAR
Readers interested are requested to read below articles as well
http://prashantaboutindia.blogspot.com/2009/05/ramana-maharshi-why-do-religions-speak.html
http://prashantaboutindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/ramana-maharshi-comments-about-lord.html
http://prashantaboutindia.blogspot.com/2010/03/ramana-maharshi-says-unless-realisation.html
Swami Sambuddananada of Sri Ramakrishna Mission said:
"I want to hear from Bhagavan Ramana's own lips, His own experience of Self Realization. Such beings are walking Upanishads."
Bhagavan said: "You say you think, I have attained Self Realization. I must know what you mean by Self Realization.What idea do you have in your mind about it?"
The Swami was not pleased with this counter-question. He added after some time: "I mean the Atma merging in the Paramatman."
Bhagavan Ramana said: "We do not know about the Paramatman or the Universal Soul, etc.,We know we exist.Nobody doubts he exists, though he may doubt the existence of God. So, if one finds out about the truth or source of oneself,that is all what is required."
The Swami thereupon said: "Bhagavan says 'Know Thyself'.
Bhagavan Ramana said:
"Even that is not correct. For if we talk of knowing the Self,there must be two Selves, one a knowing Self and the other which is known,and the process of knowing. The state we call Realization is simply being oneself,not knowing anything,not becoming anything.If one has realized, he is that which which alone is and which alone has always been.He cannot describe that.Of course,we loosely talk of Self Realization,for want of better term.How to "realize" or make Real that which alone is Real? What we are all doing is,realized or regard as real that which is not real.
This habit of ours has to be given up.All Sadhana under all systems of thought
is meant only for this end.When we give up regarding the unreal as real, then the reality alone will remain and we will be that."
Source: Source: DAY BY DAY WITH BHAGAVAN From the Diary of A. DEVARAJA MUDALIAR
Readers interested are requested to read below articles as well
http://prashantaboutindia.blogspot.com/2009/05/ramana-maharshi-why-do-religions-speak.html
http://prashantaboutindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/ramana-maharshi-comments-about-lord.html
http://prashantaboutindia.blogspot.com/2010/03/ramana-maharshi-says-unless-realisation.html
